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We All Have Our Vices

I have several favourite vices but this is my favourite for fine bench work -

http://www.homeworkshop.org.uk/components/com_agora/img/members/1788/BowlingBallVice.JPG

It's my home-brewed Bowling Ball Vice.
The ball has a flat (cut with an electric planer) with tapped holes for mounting a vice and sits in a golf trolley tyre. These are cheap and easy to make from second hand bits and give you a huge range of freedom in positioning the work held in the vice, I use it for fine finishing work but it's possible to add vacuum through a hole in a bench top to give very firm work-holding for heavier work,

- Nick

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I like that idea. Would be very handy for filing small awkward parts id normaly use a hand held vice for. Ill look out for a cheap ball when the bootsales start.

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That's cheered me right up. It's  the wierdest thing I've seen this year; surreal to the point of being almost Daliesque, I can totally see how that works though. How much does a bowling ball weigh btw?

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Bowling ball weight varies, I think this was around 10lb before I put a flat on it.
For manual work where you need a precise orientation that's awkward in a conventional bench vice this thing is brilliant, I use it for filing, engraving, Dremel fettling etc.

Come on Guys!
Post some photos of your favourite vices!
If you don't I'll post photos of more of my vices ;-) 
- Nick

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Ok, my favourite vice, mainly because I got it for £10!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/GraemeVW/Mobile%20Uploads/20150107_171428_zpse63fe0ca.jpg

Record 414. Too big for my needs really.

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I'm fairly well equipped with vices and the mainstay on my bench, is a Record No. 3 with flat ground jaws.
But my main favourite vice is the one that I made to go on my 4 1/2 inch band saw.
Back around the late 1990s a chap called Colin Elliott devised a special vice to go into the main saw vice.
It enables one to cut small pieces: which if you got a reasonable scrap box you often find something that you want that does not have enough length to go in the main saw vice.  He initially tried to exhibit this at the Midlands exhibition when it was at Donnington around 1998 or 99, but got turfed-out, presumably because he hadn’t booked-in as a trader!  Fortunately I had visited on that first day and picked up a leaflet.  A year or so later I purchased all the bits and drawings and set to fabricating the device.  It needed three castings that cost me 47 quid posted.
Pictures attached.
I really wouldn't be without this vice in my Warco bandsaw.  It is there most of the time, and enables me to cut small bits of pieces of bar et cetera that are only an inch or two long in the first place.
I've never seen it advertised since and I discussed with Hemingway the prospect of their bringing it into their catalogue, but that seemed to come to nothing.
I’ve not tried to contact Colin Elliott recently, but if there’s enough interest I’ll have a go.

Geoff Johnson

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Not a vice but it's for a vice - I made this thing for my power hacksaw to get the most out of some offcut blocks of Titanium

http://www.homeworkshop.club/components/com_agora/img/members/1788/24012015-1224_ViceClampEmpty.JPG

It' allows the use of a toolmakers vice with the jaws just clear of the blade with the vice jaws parallel with or at 90 degrees to the direction of cut -

http://www.homeworkshop.club/components/com_agora/img/members/1788/ViceClampVertical.JPG

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My Record 414 (or similar perhaps, to Graeme's above) drill-vice came courtesy of a works clear-out. The poor wee thing had been sitting in a grit-blaster for ages, of all places, luckily a dry-blast one using only fairly fine grit at irregular intervals for certain prototype tasks.

Somehow, the cast-in lug on the base of the moving jaw had broken off and vanished.
Simple turning produced a mild-steel, flanged bush with a 10mm through-hole. I cleaned the fracture face, and drilled and tapped it M10 blind for a hex.-head set-screw and washer. That put the vice back into working order. Luckily the vice thread itself had suffered no significant erosion.

As you might expect, the vice had not a trace of paint on it; but no rust either as I had rescued it almost straight from the grit-blaster and been careful to keep it dry and clean while repairing it. Paint? Halfords' spray-paint range included the needed grey primer and a gloss near-enough "Record Blue" to my eye.

Result: one perfectly serviceable little drill-vice - oh , and no rogue holes. I have seen some absolute horrors, so badly drilled-into by couldn't-care-less abuse rather than accident, as to be useless; but my rescuee is in "gwo".


My other "pet" vice is an oddity; almost certainly an apprentice project. Sorry, I've no photos and anyway have never had any luck putting pictures on web-sites! 

It has two pairs of smooth, possibly-hardened, steel jaws on a double-sided head using a single screw in a fully-rotatable, cylindrical arbor. This in turn works through a swivelling column whose base has a conventional-style rectangular G-cramp extension to fit a table or bench-top. (Or kitchen worktop....!).

To make it more fun the un-painted, elegantly-shaped, bulk components are in what might be Aluminium Bronze, judging by colour. Capacity, about 2" wide x 1.5" opening at most; a training-piece no doubt, but actually quite useful for fine work.

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What an excellent idea. All of my Engineering working life I have believed that an Engineer can overcome any obstacle put in their way. Whether it is machining an awkward component, working around any obstacles put in your way etc. An Engineering mind will always find the solution to a problem.
This idea is a prime example of overcoming a problem with its simplicity. Very impressed indeed Nick.
"Compound ball vice", should be patented.

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Nick,

Now that's clever, very clever!

Thank you for sharing it but look out for a Chinese produced, smaller version being advertised on an internet near you very soon!

Regards

Steve

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Geoff,

A marvellous piece of kit! I'd buy one. If you do get hold of Colin Elliot I know a distributor who does like to take on new innovations.

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Steve

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I too would be interested in one of the bandsaw vices if you have any luck

James

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I think a similar double-vice would be valuable on a power-hacksaw too.

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